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7.13.2004


Blogger's Guide 1 : Presentation

"To love and not lose or to not risk loving at all is to not live at all."
This comment to one of my posts turned out to be not just a tongue twister, but also a mind bender. Well said, and profound too.

Someone else, well, most anyone else would have put it in a different way, so why is it that some people write well and some write exceptionally well? This question leads well into a topic I've been learning a lot over the last month. Blog skills. Thanks to everyone who replied to my emails soliciting advice.

1. Style
Let me quote from "To be or not to be". Anyone whose mind murmured Hamlet or Shakespeare gets a pat on the back.

"By a sleep to say we end
The heartaches and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to."

You will note the highly stylized form of writing. (Im not a big fan of ending a sentence with a preposition though; it almost feels like you are left hanging at a cliff.) Someone with a taste for the finer styles of the written language most often will produce beautiful prose.

2. Attitude
Are we being serious or frivolous, casual or formal, sweet or stuffy? How many times have you come across blogs where authors are condescending or judgmental, dismissive or irritated? Example from my own blog- the last quote unintentionally adds a condescending tone to the whole article.

3. Knowledge
It is not a prerequisite that the author is knowledgeable in the subject, but is he using sound logic? Do facts or examples augment his reasoning? Is the argument structured? Is there a summary? Most often we remember to have a structure, but forget micro level details- correctness, relevance, and whether pertinent facts have been omitted. For bloggers especially, subjects cannot be too broad and the discussion has to be well organized. If you a post a long article, as I did last week, rest assured no one is going to read it!

4. Integrity
Do you add links to sources of information you use? Do you use quotes, indentation etc to delineate your original sentences from someone else's?

5. Diligence
Did you overlook spelling and grammar mistakes?

Can you think of anything else that makes some blogs very good reads?

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77 Comments:
At July 15, 2004 at 10:19 AM, Blogger Umesh said...

Oh yeah! I read your article "
When it is not just about the game: Surprising facets of sports psychology ". The article was ok, but, most of the time, i was reading back, to see what you were mentioning about. anyways......that wasnt the best of your enries......:-)

 
At July 15, 2004 at 10:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like it when people use examples as explanation.
I dislike it when people copy paste quotations or poetry.

 
At July 16, 2004 at 12:46 AM, Blogger mr said...

I see what you are saying; "Quotes and poetry: avoid, evade or avert" was a note I made to myself when I started blogging. Over time, the policy has changed. With a short story like this if i did not quote from the Ulysses, developing the plot itself would take a whole post. My Newer! Better! Low-Cal! policy on quotes- use them, don't misuse them. explain them, don't belabor them.

 
At July 16, 2004 at 1:09 AM, Blogger Ravages said...

I think humour and specifically, topical humour would be effective on blog posts.

It pays to also keep it short, and, or if long, entertaining.
As a rule, I try to avoid talking of news. There are too many people doing it, and it is not my core competency.

I do think, if i might be a little vain, that I have a good style of writing, and that's held me in good stead.

 
At July 16, 2004 at 10:18 AM, Blogger Priya said...

Nevil, good one. As for myself, I think posts are the best when they are spontaneous, even if they dont have the best of language / grammar (Iam saying this because I found few errors in my post after publishing it!). But, all that you said count too, as long as the topic is not boring.

 
At July 16, 2004 at 10:18 AM, Blogger Priya said...

Nevil, good one. As for myself, I think posts are the best when they are spontaneous, even if they dont have the best of language / grammar (Iam saying this because I found few errors in my post after publishing it!). But, all that you said count too, as long as the topic is not boring.

 
At July 16, 2004 at 10:45 AM, Blogger mr said...

Priya can really 'think outside the box'. I agree; knowledge, style and diligence need not apply to a short spontaneous article. Taking this thought a little further, there are other cases too where the content supersedes presentation. A news blog doesn't need (much)style or attitude. A journal blog doesn't need (a lot of)diligence or knowledge...

What makes some blogs very good reads is not just the presentation, it has a lot to do with content too.

 
At July 18, 2004 at 1:23 AM, Blogger Da Goddess said...

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At July 18, 2004 at 2:47 AM, Blogger Ravages said...

While at this, Let me point you to a post I made some time back.
Click HereI always believed when writing, form should reign over function, style over substance.

I hope I tally up well.

 
At July 18, 2004 at 1:59 PM, Blogger mr said...

Da Goddess, sorry, that is not on the menu ;) you can ask for anything else.

Ravages, very good point. as a matter of fact, exactly contradicting the flow of thought till now: Style over content.

Would I use something(say, a piece of furniture) that has style but no content/function? Would I use it if it had content/function, but no style? Now, to discuss the case where there is a lil bit of both style and content: Would I be interested in a person who has more style, less content? Would I be interested in this person's blog?

When I follow along answering the questions above, it seems clear to me that content/function can never be the slave of style.

 
At July 18, 2004 at 8:43 PM, Blogger Ravages said...

Nevil, I said that style ought to be the master, content the slave. Much like Wooster and Jeeves.

But if there is no slave (read content) what will style master over?
Being a master pre-requisites a slave to be master of. No content, no style. But style is supreme. That I am clear on.

 
At July 19, 2004 at 12:55 AM, Blogger mr said...

That is simply amazing- the way Ravages referred to P.G. Wodehouse- it completely changes the way one looks at his argument! Now I know exactly where you are coming from. Otherwise anyone would have had connotations of the usual master/slave relationship and with style and content... nhhaaa

A lil bit of background, Rooster and Jeeves were the main characters of P.G. Wodehouse's books. I think that www.askjeeves.com owes its name to this Jeeves. Jeeves worked for Rooster who finds himself in difficult situations regarding family, friends or matrimonial prospects. Jeeves cleverly manages to extricate his master from these dreadful catastrophes.

In the same vein, if you look at Style as the master and Content as the valet, then it does make some sense.

Is this what you meant, Ravages?

 
At July 19, 2004 at 4:16 AM, Blogger Ravages said...

Wooster, not rooster. Though, his friends would cede the fact that he acted in a fowlish way often :) (sorry. Couldnt resit it)

Well, about the point you raised. I did mean that sometimes, content is necessary. Sometimes style is more important.

Often times, people think that the idea or thought behind what they write is great and so hardly bother to stylise it, and add value. A well crafted piece of prose does wonders.

About the Jeeves Wooster relationship of style and content, well. I do think that without Jeeves, wooster would have long been dead, and with Wooster, Jeeves wouldn't be as effective.

 
At July 19, 2004 at 10:53 PM, Blogger Da Goddess said...

No, no, no...I'm the one offering them. Just a little bit. Part of my site. People visit for those and stay for the completely disjointed and incomprehensible thoughts.

 
At July 20, 2004 at 2:36 AM, Blogger Me said...

I think it depends on the CONTENT to modulate the STYLE. In a humorous post, style is the dominant player but when dealing with a serious topic, CONTENT reigns supreme. The blogger needs to strike the perfect balance.

 
At July 20, 2004 at 8:19 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with Ravi.

Wonderbug

 
At July 20, 2004 at 9:47 AM, Blogger mr said...

Ravages has a very good point in the Wooster/Jeeves relationship between style and content. But I don't agree with his point of centrality of style. Wonderbug and Ravi Handa also have a very valid point- that uniting content with style should remain our guiding principle.

There is consensus that style and content are important aspects of a blog. The question that remains is that of centrality of style or centrality of content.

A blog in the general sense should not only communicate the aspirations of its author but also fulfill the practical needs of its readers. A good blog wants to transmit a clear, immediate and authoritative message.

I believe that user orientation and readability will be sacrificed if we indulge in stylistic presentation. If your blog reader spends time noticing stylistic elements, commenting on the style rather than the content, I think that a serious error has been made.

I will take this position of the centrality of content a little further and lean towards being minimalist with style. How about borrowing presentation elements from traditional print media? The offshoot of this minimalist approach is that readers will be anchored in familiar territory with tried and tested styles of presentation.

 
At July 20, 2004 at 8:43 PM, Blogger Nilu said...

Style can impress all the people for some time, and some people all the time - but not all the people all the time.

 
At July 20, 2004 at 8:44 PM, Blogger Nilu said...

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Re: ending sentences with prepositions

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